A puzzle inside a puzzle at the CIA? NSA recording all?

My semi sort of daily link of interest. Interesting to me at least. Both articles talk about things I mention often. i predicted that the NSA was collecting and storing literally all for at least the last 6-7 years. The evidence was in many varied articles about Stellar Wind and total surveillance. I have heard about Kryptos many times before. It is a sculpture at Langley that contains 4 different pieces with what looks like random letters or shapes but actually it contains a message. A puzzle if you will for the Cryptographers who work there. 3 of the 4 panels have been figured out. The last is still a mystery. Who ever does solve it will make a name for themselves. This type of cryptogram is just so interesting.

This is the history basically…

Editor’s Note: In the late 1980’s, under a GSA program, the CIA commissioned Washington artist, James Sanborn to create a series of sculptures for CIA’s new Headquarters building. Working together with Ed Scheidt, who was soon to retire from the Office of Communications, Sanborn created a sculpture named “Kryptos” (Greek for hidden) that was dedicated in 1990 and now resides in the northwest corner of the courtyard. The curving verdigris scroll contains an 865-character coded message that seems to flow out from a petrified tree and is located near a water-filled basin bordered by various types of stones. In the following article, David D. Stein describes how he has deciphered most of the secret message contained within the sculpture.


It took eight years after artist Jim Sanborn unveiled his cryptographic sculpture at the CIA’s headquarters for someone to succeed at cracking Kryptos’s enigmatic messages.

In 1998, CIA analyst David Stein cracked three of the sculpture’s four coded messages after spending 400 hours diddling over the problem with paper and pencil during many lunch breaks.


Good luck.. The Wired article has a photo of the 4th unsolved cryptogram. If you solve it you will become a star in the cryptography field. Could write a book to describe how you solved it. P.S. I think it is possible the artist may be playing a joke as part of his artwork. Plant messages in 3 of the 4 panels and make the last one gibberish. The name of the sculpture is Kyrptos so it was made as a testament to the importance the Agency has in analyzing coded messages. Anyhow just a personal opinion.

Old news but pretty interesting to read about the NSA. I have known they were collecting every possible thing they can about you for as many as last 11-12 years at least.

The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America’s largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.

The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on an “ongoing, daily basis” to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the US and between the US and other countries.

The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of US citizens are being collected indiscriminately and in bulk – regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing.


It is very scary to me that we live in a 1984 ish world on many levels in our current age. If you think of the parallels between the book and 2013 it is fairly stunning.

“IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, the Custodian of Records shall produce to the National Security Agency (NSA) upon service of this Order, and continue production on an ongoing daily basis thereafter for the duration of this Order, unless otherwise ordered by the Court, an electronic copy of the following tangible things: all call detail records or “telephony metadata” created by Verizon for communications (i) between the United States and abroad; or (ii) wholly within the United States, including local telephone calls. This Order does not require Verizon to produce telephony metadata for communications wholly originating and terminating in foreign countries. Telephony metadata includes comprehensive communications routing information,. including but not limited to session identifying information (e.g., originating and terminating telephone number, International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) number, International Mobile station Equipment Identity (IMEI) number, etc.), trunk identifier, telephone calling card numbers, and time and duration of call. Telephony metadata does not include the substantive content of any communication, as defined by 18 U.S.C. ? 2510(8), or the name, address, or financial information of a subscriber or customer.”




11 thoughts on “A puzzle inside a puzzle at the CIA? NSA recording all?

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